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Ugly but simple. I don't really see how they could make it any simpler while reducing the house edge.
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Make all dealer rolls of 2, 3 and 12 automatic pushes and losers.
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I would say it is better if dealer rolls: 2 and 3 is a automatic losers.
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I welcome all comments and corrections.
The first rule has very strange wording.
1. After players make a wager the dealer will roll two dice and the total noted.
Obviously, all players make a wager, so that part can be eliminated. Or at least separated into it's own line.
'The total noted.' is a strange remark that is unnecessary.
In the comparison chart, only Big Six is a link. I found that odd, since the only game I immediately wanted to look up was Boule - a game I never heard of.
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My eyes just glaze over when I read some of the proposals on here.
That is a pretty sad commentary if players can't understand losing half on ties, or only certain ties lose.
Casino War often gets teased for being too simple, and that has special rules on ties.
I know I often say that it is hard to overstate the importance of simplicity with new games, but in this case I think you are.
- H.L. Mencken
I suppose a few simple rules aren't that complicating.
I just think they should be easy to remember when you're drunk, and easy to print on the felt.
I know the crowd at that game appreciates the simple things in life.
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The first rule has very strange wording. Obviously, all players make a wager, so that part can be eliminated.
I wanted to point out there there is just one kind of wager to make.
'The total noted.' is a strange remark that is unnecessary.
How else would they remember what the dealer rolled? You can see on the picture of the table at the Turning Stone web site they put a puck on the 5.
I know this idea won't go over well with some here, but I would at least consider an odds bet after the dealer roll.
After posting above, I started to think more about the description here that the dealer uses a Sic-Bo style cage, while the player shoots dice.
That's all well and good, except I'm sure there are people that will think that since they aren't the same dice, they may be loaded to produce higher rolls for the dealer. Obviously, with the very high edge from fair dice, they don't need to use loaded dice, but you just know people are gonna start thinking it.
I'm sure it does draw if it's at the front of the pit -- that's the whole point. But I think it can be made far more exciting and also cost-effective. Here's how:
1) Get rid of the dice table and sic bo cage, and use a blackjack table instead. Or two.
2) Get two Pai Gow cups and four dice, two each of two different colors.
3) The dealer and the player each shake the dice shakers and slam them down on the table. This takes much less time than spinning the cage and shooting the dice. It's also very loud -- a great attraction.
4) Reveal the dice cups and evaluate winners.
You'll get many more hands/hour this way than with the dice table. The only reason to use a dice table is to get players used to throwing dice and maybe to move over to craps, which from their website seems to be the goal. But I'm not sure how many people that will actually work on. There's a huge difference between making a $1 carnival bet and a $10 passline bet, if not from an EV standpoint than from a psychological standpoint.
Also, please let them know that if they're paying someone for their 'new' game, they shouldn't be -- it's been in the public domain for decades.
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1) Lifted them off the table
2) Switched hands
3)Put them in both hands to 'blow on them' for luck
4) Were about to shoot on the side of the table they are standing on (or did, resulting in no roll)
Here is my new page on Beat the Dealer.
I welcome all comments and corrections.
The first rule has very strange wording.
1. After players make a wager the dealer will roll two dice and the total noted.
Obviously, all players make a wager, so that part can be eliminated. Or at least separated into it's own line.
'The total noted.' is a strange remark that is unnecessary.
In the comparison chart, only Big Six is a link. I found that odd, since the only game I immediately wanted to look up was Boule - a game I never heard of.
Administrator
My eyes just glaze over when I read some of the proposals on here.
That is a pretty sad commentary if players can't understand losing half on ties, or only certain ties lose.
Casino War often gets teased for being too simple, and that has special rules on ties.
I know I often say that it is hard to overstate the importance of simplicity with new games, but in this case I think you are.
- H.L. Mencken
I suppose a few simple rules aren't that complicating.
I just think they should be easy to remember when you're drunk, and easy to print on the felt.
I know the crowd at that game appreciates the simple things in life.
Administrator
The first rule has very strange wording. Obviously, all players make a wager, so that part can be eliminated.
I wanted to point out there there is just one kind of wager to make.
'The total noted.' is a strange remark that is unnecessary.
How else would they remember what the dealer rolled? You can see on the picture of the table at the Turning Stone web site they put a puck on the 5.
I know this idea won't go over well with some here, but I would at least consider an odds bet after the dealer roll.
After posting above, I started to think more about the description here that the dealer uses a Sic-Bo style cage, while the player shoots dice.
That's all well and good, except I'm sure there are people that will think that since they aren't the same dice, they may be loaded to produce higher rolls for the dealer. Obviously, with the very high edge from fair dice, they don't need to use loaded dice, but you just know people are gonna start thinking it.
I'm sure it does draw if it's at the front of the pit -- that's the whole point. But I think it can be made far more exciting and also cost-effective. Here's how:
1) Get rid of the dice table and sic bo cage, and use a blackjack table instead. Or two.
2) Get two Pai Gow cups and four dice, two each of two different colors.
3) The dealer and the player each shake the dice shakers and slam them down on the table. This takes much less time than spinning the cage and shooting the dice. It's also very loud -- a great attraction.
4) Reveal the dice cups and evaluate winners.
You'll get many more hands/hour this way than with the dice table. The only reason to use a dice table is to get players used to throwing dice and maybe to move over to craps, which from their website seems to be the goal. But I'm not sure how many people that will actually work on. There's a huge difference between making a $1 carnival bet and a $10 passline bet, if not from an EV standpoint than from a psychological standpoint.
Also, please let them know that if they're paying someone for their 'new' game, they shouldn't be -- it's been in the public domain for decades.
Turning Stone Casino News
Just to expand on this, you wouldn't believe the number of times the dealer asks the player to set the dice back down because they1) Lifted them off the table
2) Switched hands
3)Put them in both hands to 'blow on them' for luck
4) Were about to shoot on the side of the table they are standing on (or did, resulting in no roll)
I'm sure this is extremely irritating for the dealers, and since there are new people playing this game every day this is never going to change. Most craps players would never choose this game, but a lot of new guests do. Keep in mind Turning Stone is one of the largest 18+ casinos in the country, this doesn't help the cause much.
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It is the first thing you see walking into the casino after getting your players card.
I assumed it was a craps table and went over. When I saw what it was I immediately knew it was a sucker bet.
I had no idea that the edge was TEN times higher than a pass line bet with no odds.
The game is flanked by two ten dollar craps tables.
Ironic, since the house is clearing $0.14 on the $10 pass line,
And almost the same, clearing $0.11 on the $1 Beat the Dealer wager!
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